[mojo]

Now keep in mind this rumor has very little basis, but Torque News is reporting that the actual reason Toyota is collaborating with BMW on a sports car project is not in fact for a sports car but to get their hands on BMW's 2.0T engine. It seems the string of logic in their argument is that the NX will have a 2.0T and look at that BMW makes a 2.0T that they put in the X3.

Your second clue that Torque News is truly cracked comes when they reference Car and Driver as one of the best publications around, because of course C&D started this fangled rumor.

And there you have it, the auto journalists circle jerk executed to perfection...

YMMV http://www.torquenews.com/1083/will-lexus-new-nx-turbo-crossover-use-bmw-engine

 

[toyotafan]

interesting...

is toyota/lexus so lazy that it doesnt want to develop its own turbo engine?

 

[Kennedy]

Not sure but they have done it before, maybe they want to hold off or just want to take time to develop one properly and need something to use for now

 

[toyotafan]

the last 4 cylinder turbo was the mr2?

 

[mojo]

they should just put the FRS' boxer in and call it a day

 

[Kennedy]

they should just put the FRS' boxer in and call it a day

amen to that, and add a turbo to it


300+ HP in the NX....THANK YOU.

 

[toyotafan]

FRS Boxer isnt all that powerful either

i'd rather have the toyota 4 cylinder..

 

[mojo]

FRS Boxer isnt all that powerful either

i'd rather have the toyota 4 cylinder..

but it could be if you TUUUURRRRBOOOOEEEDDDDDDDD

 

[Kennedy]

the turbo version puts out 300hp which in a vehicle like this will be a good amount considering it's weight and all

 

[mojo]

oh yes but obviously were dreaming hehh... wasn't one of the big things about the nx concept when it debuted was that Toyota had developed their own turbo for this... I believed there were even patents filed or something...

 

[toyotafan]

but it could be if you TUUUURRRRBOOOOEEEDDDDDDDD

keep in mind its a subaru motor.

if they wanted to use a subaru motor they might as well take one of subarus existing turbocharged motors.

 

[Kennedy]

I think I might have missed that, but with it's unveiling happening next month i think we'll hear about that and much more.

 

[toyotafan]

i think it'll be a toyota engine.. thats my thought

 

[Kennedy]

Tough to say at this point. Both brands seem capable of doing this, but I think it's more likely of BMW doing this.

 

[mojo]

Tough to say at this point. Both brands seem capable of doing this, but I think it's more likely of BMW doing this.

the thing to also keep in mind is there little sportscar joint venture. They may be building a sportscar together but the pieces going over both ways do not necessarily have to be exclusive to the sportscar program. For example BMW wants toyotas supercapacitor hybrid tech from their LeMans program, its feasible Toyota wants BMW's modern turbo knowledge...

 

[toyotafan]

yea you have that point

hopefully it makes it to other cars and not just the sports cars

 

[mojo]

yea you have that point

hopefully it makes it to other cars and not just the sports cars

And I think that this is the ultimate goal of their joint venture. Both companies make components the others want and its musch cheaper to aquire these technologies through trade than it is to develop them proprietary.

Clearly Toyota is one of the best in the game at Hybrids/EV's, feck they pretty much birthed the modern segment YEARs ago with the first prius. BMW does Turbos as well as anyone in the game, and I believe Toyota has been without a significant turbo program since the 2JZ was shelved over a decade ago...

 

[toyotafan]

i think tada san has stated they want to make their own turbo motor for use in other cars in the future

the motor we see in this NX could replace the V6 in the camry and might even go in the corolla one day

You never know

Might replace the IS250 engine.

 

[Kennedy]

good point, I think the Camry is one of the sedans out their running a traditional V6 that can use something more efficient

 

[toyotafan]

if you want it to last

it better be a toyota engine