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http://www.worldcarfans.com/114090180488/lexus-rules-out-f-branded-crossovers


Speaking to Car Advice, Lexus F chief engineer Yukihiko Yaguchi said the company doesn't have any plans for F crossovers. As he explained, "To have an F badge, the car needs to have the characteristics to be able to run on track and be a race car."


While Yaguchi ruled out full-on F models, he hinted we can expect more F Sport variants. These typically eschew performance upgrades for styling and interior tweaks.
 

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That sucks, I thought the NX might have gotten it.
With information that the RX could go up segment a bit, it seems like they might not have any crossovers as F vehicles.
 

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What B.S. is that, they showed the car being driven on the test track, they show pics of the 200T F sport all over the place, and now they say they won't make it, WTF!:mad:
It's a 200T F for me or nothing, I'll just get me a used 2013 Santa Fe sport 2.0 T, I'll save 15-20 G's right there, so I don't mind.
 

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I have mixed feelings about this. On one hand I think it would be fun to have an F branded NX model. It would be fun to drive for sure. On the other hand, I think that its good that Lexus is not putting the F brand on every single model it has. Doing that dilutes the F brand. I'm not sure that dilution is really that terrible of a thing from a business perspective for Lexus.
 

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What B.S. is that, they showed the car being driven on the test track, they show pics of the 200T F sport all over the place, and now they say they won't make it, WTF!:mad:
It's a 200T F for me or nothing, I'll just get me a used 2013 Santa Fe sport 2.0 T, I'll save 15-20 G's right there, so I don't mind.
You misunderstood! NX F-sport IS being made...NX with F-sport package.

NX-F is different...it along the same lines as IS-F or LFA. This is NOT being made.

BTW, i would rather get a Mazda CX5 over any Hyundai....
 

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Will most people be appeased with the F-sport package only, or would you guys prefer an NX-F? What would actually be the difference between the two anyways?
 

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LOL thats a funny question, the only reason they will not be appeased with the F-Sport is if they somehow get the idea that what they NEED is more power and more on track prowess.

People used to be appeased with ponderous suspension and couch front seats, then we told everyone they could be a ricky racer too, now you cant buy a car that won't rattle your teeth out from soft suspension.

Regardless, let the anoraks buy Macans and think they've bought a 911... At least lexus remains true...
 

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LOL thats a funny question, the only reason they will not be appeased with the F-Sport is if they somehow get the idea that what they NEED is more power and more on track prowess.

People used to be appeased with ponderous suspension and couch front seats, then we told everyone they could be a ricky racer too, now you cant buy a car that won't rattle your teeth out from soft suspension.

Regardless, let the anoraks buy Macans and think they've bought a 911... At least lexus remains true...
IMHO, track car handling and SUV don't mix, no matter how you spin it.
 

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You misunderstood! NX F-sport IS being made...NX with F-sport package.

NX-F is different...it along the same lines as IS-F or LFA. This is NOT being made.

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OK, I'm still confused as to what the difference is though.
 

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IMHO, track car handling and SUV don't mix, no matter how you spin it.
Yeah they do, I saw a porshe SUV being driven hard on the track on Top Gear and it handled like a sports car, that thing was fast and tight around corners...
 

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Yeah they do, I saw a porshe SUV being driven hard on the track on Top Gear and it handled like a sports car, that thing was fast and tight around corners...
How does it compare to a Porsche car of same money? What compromise does it have to make up for the high center of gravity, heavy weight, and long travel suspension?
 

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How does it compare to a Porsche car of same money? What compromise does it have to make up for the high center of gravity, heavy weight, and long travel suspension?
Don't know, but it kicks ass like a sports car, twin turbo 550 HP is it?
 

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Lexus just shows their sensibility time and time again, luckily they aren't drawn into the hubris the M or AMG have become in the recent years. AMG G wagon should of been an anathema, then the rappers started buying them....

“To have an F badge, the car needs to have characteristics to be able to run on track and on race course,” he explained. “Therefore it doesn’t really suit to have an SUV as an F model. There may be an F Sports SUV (there are already – ED), but as far as F models go, no plans.”
 

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Lexus is not know as a driver's (handling, road feel, acceleration, etc.) car company. Luxury and reliability is what comes to mind when I think of Lexus. It's ok for Lexus to have a F badge designation, but most people wouldn't know the difference between it and F Sport. It just confuses most buyers into thinking the F Sport is going to have the same driving capability as a BMW or Porsche, and after a test drive they will leave disappointed. Maybe Lexus should have used Special Edition instead of F Sport.?
 

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Do you think that other brands, like BMW, will win sales from Lexus because they are offering performance models even in their CUV range?
 
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